What Real Coaching Looks Like — and Why It Changes Everything
Lisa Camooso Miller sits down with executive coach Kasia Hatcher of The Trusted Edge to talk about what actually gets leaders unstuck — from invisible operating systems to hard conversations to AI.
What Real Coaching Looks Like — and Why It Changes Everything
A conversation with Kasia Hatcher, Founder of The Trusted Edge
If you've ever felt like your business is doing well but something isn't quite working — like you're always catching your breath, always a little behind — this conversation is for you.
Kasia Hatcher is the founder of The Trusted Edge, and she works with executives and entrepreneurs to build smarter systems, navigate hard conversations, and grow in a way that's actually sustainable. She has also been one of the most impactful advisors in my own business, which is exactly why I wanted her on The Friday Reporter.
What follows are the ideas from our conversation that I keep coming back to.
Your invisible operating system
Most leadership development focuses on skills, tools, and behaviors — what Kasia calls "the apps." Her work goes deeper.
"Think of every adult as having an invisible operating system," she told me. "I work on the OS underneath — the invisible patterns that have been running your leadership without your awareness. Once you can see them, the grip loosens. That's when everything else finally sticks."
That framing reoriented how I think about why certain habits never stick no matter how hard I try. It's not discipline. It's that I was running the wrong update.
Why most systems fail
If you've ever downloaded a productivity framework, tried it for two weeks, and quietly abandoned it — Kasia has a precise explanation for why.
"They built it for someone else's business. They heard 'this worked for me' or AI generated a 12-step framework and they adopted it wholesale."
Her fix is deceptively simple: start with one question. What's one thing you do repeatedly right now that, if it went away, would free you for the actual strategic work only you can do?
"That answer tells us everything about where to start."
And when the rules inevitably change? The system needs to be agile — but the foundation doesn't. "Your SOPs, your documented rhythms — here's the test: if you handed someone access to your documents tomorrow, could they run it like you? That's the gold."
On AI — and where people get it wrong
Kasia works extensively on integrating AI into client workflows, and she named two specific mistakes she sees constantly.
The first: outsourcing too much, too fast. "AI pulls from the mean average of everything out there. If you haven't grounded it in who you are and what you actually need, you get slop."
The second: fear. "It's still new. And fear makes everything complicated. Start with one problem, one workflow."
She shared an example of a client who felt completely overbooked. Rather than a sweeping overhaul, Kasia gave her a single prompt — a calendar audit for analysis, not scheduling. How are you actually spending your time? What patterns aren't serving your priorities? One prompt. Total shift.
That's what AI does when it's pointed at the right problem.
The hardest part: conversations you've been avoiding
This is where Kasia earns her reputation. Her framework for hard conversations is one of the most practical things I've taken into my own work.
The biggest mistake people make, she says, is going in trying to manage the other person's emotions instead of their own groundedness. "They've rehearsed how the other person will react. They've pre-softened, pre-apologized, pre-justified — and they walk in already behind."
Her approach, grounded in the work of Chris Voss and Jefferson Fisher: your job is not to control their reaction. Your job is to stay grounded enough to have the conversation at all.
The second trap is leading with feelings instead of facts. "Feelings are how you close, not how you open. Facts first — clean, neutral, brief. One sentence. Then stop talking."
And the opener she gave me that I've already used: "There's something I should have named sooner. I'm naming it now."
She walked me through a client who had been avoiding a call for two weeks because taking a new piece of work would have created a conflict with her most important long-term client. After one coaching session, the client made the call that night. No blowup. No fallout. She referred a colleague who could take the work — and the long-term client she protected came back with a new proposal that would yield more than the original opportunity.
A three-minute conversation she dreaded for two weeks opened more doors than it closed.
What people actually need right now
I asked Kasia what she sees leaders needing most in this moment of uncertainty and rapid change. Her answer was immediate: space.
"Burnout isn't about doing too much. It's about being so disconnected from yourself — your body, your intuition — that you're never quite operating at full capacity. You're always running at 47%. Space is what restores that."
And on the emotional reality of building something: "Building a business is deeply personal — it's identity, it's worth, it's sacrifice. The emotional journey isn't a detour from the work. It is the work."
The leaders who grow, she told me, are the ones who treat the business as a system and themselves as learners. The ones who stay stuck treat the business as an extension of who they are — so every setback feels personal and every pivot feels like failure.
One thing you can do this week
Kasia left listeners with two small moves:
Pick one thing you do repeatedly and write it down as a process. And schedule one non-negotiable thinking block per week — and protect it like a client meeting you cannot cancel.
"Those two moves change how a business feels."
Find Kasia Hatcher
Kasia Hatcher is the founder of The Trusted Edge. You can reach her at thetrustededge.com or connect with her on LinkedIn. She offers a complimentary consultation call for new clients.
The Friday Reporter is hosted by Lisa Camooso Miller. Listen wherever you get your podcasts — and subscribe so you don't miss a conversation.
Inside the CHIPS Act: National Security, Semiconductors and Washington Strategy
Katherine Mitchell of DLA Piper joins Lisa Camooso Miller to unpack the CHIPS and Science Act, semiconductor strategy and what it really takes to navigate Washington — from Capitol Hill to Commerce to the private sector.
A conversation with Katherine Mitchell, DLA Piper
If you want to understand one of the most consequential policy stories in Washington right now, you need to understand semiconductors — and you need to talk to someone who has worked on this issue from nearly every angle: Capitol Hill, the Pentagon, the Department of Commerce, and now the private sector.
Katherine Mitchell is a policy expert at DLA Piper who spent a decade in government at the intersection of national security and emerging technology. She served as chief of staff to the CHIPS R&D office at the Department of Commerce — helping stand up the $50 billion CHIPS for America program from scratch — and before that worked at the Department of Defense and on Capitol Hill. She joined me on The Friday Reporter to talk about semiconductors, influence, reputation and what building a career in Washington actually looks like.
Why semiconductors are a national security issue
Most people think of chips as something inside their phone. Katherine helped me understand why they're much more than that.
"Chips — semiconductors — are these little tiny technologies that live in everything we use. Inside your smartphone, inside your car, inside your refrigerator, but also inside our nation's defense systems. Tanks. Fighter jets. They're everywhere."
The vulnerability became impossible to ignore during the pandemic, when supply chain restrictions in Asia made semiconductors nearly impossible to get. Car production slowed. Consumer electronics backed up. And the national security implications became clear: if you can't manufacture your own chips, you can't guarantee your own defense capabilities.
Congress responded with the CHIPS and Science Act of 2022 — a bipartisan law designed to revitalize domestic semiconductor manufacturing and fund the next generation of advanced chip research and development. Katherine was on Capitol Hill when it passed, then moved to Commerce to help implement it.
"Getting to see the legislation pass and then go implement it — that's the process working the way it's supposed to."
What success looks like — and why it takes time
I asked Katherine how we'll know if the CHIPS program worked. Her answer was honest and instructive.
"It will take a decade or two to know if we've done it right. There are still a lot of real-world negotiations, building of foundries and fabs that have to take place to realize the benefits. AI can certainly help make that go faster — the two are linked — but it doesn't solve the problem on its own."
What she's watching in the meantime: how Congress responds to implementation changes between the Biden and Trump administrations, how the White House's AI framework connects to the semiconductor ecosystem, and whether the companies making these bets can bring their technologies from lab to production.
Relationship building is the foundation — full stop
No matter the industry or the issue, Katherine kept coming back to the same first principle for navigating Washington: relationships before policy.
"The first thing you have to do is build relationships with the people who are best poised to work with you and to help you. You can only get to procurement and policy development after you've built those really strong relationships."
This was especially true, she said, for the startups she works with — innovators working on genuinely important problems who simply don't know how to connect with the right people inside government.
"Some of my favorite clients are the ones starting up and wanting to get running because they've got good ideas. They just don't know how to execute them."
Technology, she noted, no longer wears the halo it once did. The window to build credibility early — before narratives harden — is narrow. Getting the relationship strategy right from the start matters more than it ever has.
"Wear your honors lightly"
When I asked Katherine for the best career advice she'd received, she reached back to something an administrative dean said to her in graduate school — not framed as career advice at the time, but internalized as exactly that.
Wear your honors lightly.
"I heard that as: approach everything with humility. Be willing to learn. Be willing to lean in. If you always endeavor to be the smartest person in the room, you'll never learn anything new."
It's a principle she's carried through every role — from the Pentagon to Capitol Hill to helping build a $50 billion federal program from the ground up.
The risk that paid off
Leaving a chief of staff role on Capitol Hill to go stand up an entirely new office at Commerce was, by Katherine's own description, a risk.
"Moving away from Capitol Hill to help stand up a $50 billion program at the Department of Commerce — I was nervous to do that. But man, I'm so glad I did."
She built it while making it happen. And it put her in exactly the position she's in now: someone who understands both the policy intent and the implementation reality of one of the most consequential technology investments in American history.
What Washington takes
In the lightning round, I asked Katherine what one thing people should understand about Washington that they don't already.
"It is both a marathon and a sprint every day."
And for anyone building a career here — in lobbying, policy, communications or government relations — her advice was equally clear: focus on the people who have something to teach you, get to know the people you meet along the way, and surround yourself with really smart, talented women.
"The women in this town are brilliant and hardworking. Surround yourself with them."
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What Washington Is Really Doing Right Now — A Lobbyist's View
Matthew Cutts of Dentons joins Lisa Camooso Miller to unpack what's actually happening in Washington — from AI regulation and crypto to how companies should be preparing for political risk right now.
A conversation with Matthew Cutts, Partner, Dentons
The headlines out of Washington tell one story. What's actually happening behind the scenes tells another.
Matthew Cutts is one of Washington's top policy strategists at Dentons, and he spends his days translating the capital for corporations navigating an increasingly consequential political environment. I invited him onto The Friday Reporter because, frankly, I wanted to hear from someone who's in the rooms — someone who can tell us what smart people are missing and where the real action is headed.
This is that conversation.
The most hopeful thing about Washington that nobody reports
I opened by asking Matthew what most people still misunderstand about D.C. His answer was more optimistic than I expected.
"There's just so much work still happening behind the scenes. Committees are meeting. There are hearings. Chairmen are positioning — even for next year. They're doing listening sessions. This is the kind of ground game that bubbles up and you see it eventually, but there's a lot that happens quietly, out of sight from companies and businesses."
The news cycle, he argued, systematically underreports the constructive, grinding work of governance in favor of the combative and dramatic. That's important context for any executive trying to read Washington from the outside.
CEOs can no longer afford to ignore Washington
Something has shifted in how corporate America engages with government — and it happened fast.
"It's hard to be the CEO of almost any company and not wonder what's happening in Washington. There was a time not too long ago where CEOs were worried about their core business, their widget, their shareholders. But now this administration has shown it can have such an immediate impact on a company's bottom line."
The response, Matthew said, has been a move from reactive to proactive. Companies that used to absorb policy changes are now trying to get ahead of them — not necessarily to change outcomes, but to be better prepared and adapt faster when changes come.
Washington, he noted, is "a new factor" in corporate decision-making. Not the only factor, but one that can no longer be outsourced to a clipping service.
Where bipartisan agreement still exists
Despite the polarization, Matthew identified two areas where both parties are still finding common ground.
The first is tax. "Tax tends to be less partisan. If there's a provision that leans toward one party's ideology, you can pair it with something that lines up with the other — and stitch together a package that's relatively bipartisan. That's tried and true."
The second, more surprisingly, is AI. "The technology is developing and the thought of regulating it is almost developing faster than the parties can figure out their ideologies. It creates this swirl where the far right is easily lining up with the far left." State rights arguments, privacy advocates, child safety concerns — they're all pulling in directions that don't map neatly onto traditional partisan lines.
And then there's crypto. "Market structure and crypto are moving right now," Matthew said. "We know how to regulate financial instruments, but this is a new and different one. Getting the framework right will keep the U.S. in a lead position."
Political retaliation is now part of the risk calculus
This was the part of our conversation that stopped me. I asked Matthew how much his clients factor in not just regulation but the possibility of political retaliation — and his answer was direct.
"We're advising them to make decisions today that they don't have to worry about retaliation in the future. It's definitely top of mind."
He pointed out that even something as procedural as a congressional oversight request — no accusation of wrongdoing, just a company's name appearing in the mix — can be disruptive. It can leak. It can move stock prices. It can shake confidence.
"I remember writing strategies for corporate clients about how to be ready if there's a tweet about the company. Now it's not just a tweet. It's about what kind of impact it can have."
The lesson: prepare before you're in the story, not after.
Is Congress fundamentally different than it was a decade ago?
Matthew's answer was nuanced and I found it genuinely reassuring. At the office-to-office level — the actual work of explaining an issue, walking through a proposed solution — he said it feels similar to how it always did.
"When we're in these offices, if I ask someone on one side who on the other side they'd be inclined to work with on this issue, they usually have three or four names. Ten years ago they'd have had nine or ten — but it's rare for someone to say no one."
The difference is at the macro level. The institution feels more combative from the outside. The slim margins make everything harder. But the human infrastructure — staffers who know each other, who recognize that bipartisan solutions stick better — that hasn't disappeared.
"I don't know if both can be true, but that's my answer."
What lobbying actually is
I asked Matthew to correct the biggest misconception people have about his profession.
"Rarely do people come to me to get a member to do something they were going to do anyway. We're usually hired to find a member whose support they don't have naturally and convince them. There's a lot more advocacy — thoughtful advocacy — that has to happen. If they had the votes, they wouldn't hire us."
It's more sophisticated than people appreciate, he said simply. And he's right.
Optimist or pessimist?
I closed by asking Matthew where he lands on Washington right now. Without hesitation: optimist.
"I acknowledge there are lots of reasons to be pessimistic. But you can't start every day like that. Hope springs eternal. I have confidence in the institutions."
Put him down as a blind optimist, he said. I'd argue it's the only way to do this work — and keep doing it well.
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